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Don’t know what to pack for Spain? If you’re planning a multi-city trip, assembling your Spain outfits can be tricky. You may have to dress for different types of weather! After all, Spain is the 10th most climatically diverse in the world. If you’re from the US or another Western country, you’ll be glad to know the Spanish “dress code” isn’t radically different from other Western countries. And if you’re a first-time visitor, it’s likely you’ll be walking through cobblestone streets, sitting in sunny plazas, or discovering solemn churches. So you’ll have to dress practically too! This guide is for women and men (mostly for women though). Keep reading to know what to wear in Spain – so you can fit in with locals and NOT stand out like a tourist!
I hate to make sweeping generalizations about Spain fashion because it’s such a diverse country. From my experience of living in Salamanca, Seville, and Barcelona, styles can vary. For instance, Catalan people can be very creative with their hairstyles. (So. Many. Hair salons.) Have you ever seen grandmas with sky-blue hair? I’ve seen it so many times here in Barcelona! This isn’t so customary, for example, in Seville.
I’m also lucky to have traveled around Spain to Santander, Cáceres, Ávila, Toledo, and other cities. And it’s no secret that weather and local culture influence their everyday style. So how do people dress in Spain in general? Welp, it’s 2024, and we’ve all witnessed how fast fashion and social media is trending towards a monoculture: same street style, same TV shows, same ideals, driven by social media. So please don’t take this guide as gospel – but as a general guideline to help you plan your things to pack for Spain!
Different climates in Spain
Let’s check out the different climatic zones in Spain. In general, Northern Spain is rainier than the rest of Spain. The interior / continental zone is the coldest in the winter. Southern Spain is the hottest. Peek at this general map of the different climates of Spain.
SPANISH REGION | SUMMER | WINTER |
North (Asturias, Cantabria, Pais Vasco: Santander, San Sebastián, Bilbao) | Very warm and sometimes rainy | Mildly cold and rainy |
Northwest (Galicia: La Coruña) | Very warm and rainy | Mildly cold and very rainy |
South (Andalusia: Seville, Córdoba, Granada) | Very hot and semi-arid | Mildly cold |
Continental / Central (Castilla-La Mancha, Aragon, Castilla Leon, Madrid, Extremadura, Valencia) | Hot and semi-arid | Cold |
Northeast (Costa Brava / Barcelona) | Hot and humid | Mildly cold |
Mountains (Sierra Nevada, Pyrenees, etc.) | Warm summers | Very cold |
Southwest (Murcia, Almeria) | Hot and arid | Cold |
<<Coming to Barcelona? Check out my post on How to Dress in Barcelona According to Season!>>
Winter
The weather in December, January, and February, March
The official winter season is from December 22 to March 20. December is cold, but January and February are the coldest months.
Northern / Northwest Spain: Mildly cold and rainy, this region gets the most rainfall, even more so in Galicia. The average temperature in Bilbao is 13ºC-15ºC / 55ºF-59ºF. It can snow in the North, but it’s rare. Don’t expect a winter wonderland like Toronto or Moscow. It rains the most in Galicia!
Continental / Central Spain: The middle part of Spain is the coldest area and covers the largest climate area. In Madrid, it can be as cold as 1ºC/34ºF in February to 16ºC/61ºF in March. It’s also pretty dry, so it doesn’t get much rainfall. It can snow also, but it’s rare.
Mediterranean / Southern Spain / Catalonia: It’s cold, but milder than in Madrid. Sunshine can be tricky! It might be beautiful outside, but it’s freezing cold in the shade. In Seville, lows are around 6ºC / 43ºF and temps reach around 17ºC / 63ºF in March. Barcelona is very similar: it has sunny days but it’s still cold.
What to wear in Spain in winter
If you look at Spanish people walking down a random street, you’ll just see a general “dark colors” theme. So with colors, think neutral shades: gray, brown, black, or cream. These are shades that can be paired with anything. The winter snow bunny look is not in the Spain dress code (white fur coat, wintery hat, with snowflake designs).
Women
- Medium-weight coats and jackets like peacoats and parkas. Even if the sun is shining, and maybe it’s warmed up a bit in the afternoon, people will still have on their winter jackets. Even if the sun is out, locals like to wear their warm jackets! A wool parka or peacoat would work. For anywhere in Spain, aim for wearing three layers: A base layer, a cotton top or sweater, and a jacket. (Psst… Want to know what to wear in Seville, Spain? The Sevillana women wear their (faux) fur beautifully.)
- Dress or skirt WITH winter leggings
- A warm scarf in wool, cashmere, or even a soft acrylic that you can wrap in different ways.
- Long-sleeved tops, forget short sleeves!
- A thermal top, or warm camisole as a base layer
- A thick cardigan sweater or hoodie for top layering
- Optional! On very rare days, mittens and gloves are necessary, but just in the morning or at night, or unless you get cold easily.
- Also optional: a hat. I wore them once last winter, and everyone commented, “You’re wearing a hat! (Gah. In other words, it was a big deal.) If you’re NOT visiting the North, I would forego a hat to avoid extra weight.
Men
Jeans and medium-weight pants like corduroys will keep you warm. Again, a base layer of pants isn’t necessary. Good leather shoes or cool sneaks. Wear a medium-weight to heavy jacket like a leather jacket, wool coat, or parka. Men also wear their clothes fairly fitted, but not tight. Baggy, oversized clothes are for teenagers!
Winter Packing List Suggestions
Here are a few practical and fashionable items to put in your suitcase:
A thermal tank top that doesn’t stick out of your blouse
A good idea is to have a base layer under your blouses and tops. But don’t you hate it when the neckline peeks out? I have a v-neck one and I’m limited on tops! This one hides discreetly!
Check out prices for this thermal tank top
Warm fleece seamless leggings
- Warm and fleece-lined without looking bulky or thick
- Can wear it under tunics, skirts, or dresses. Or alone because it’s not transparent!
Check out the latest prices for these leggings
Amazon Essentials Women’s Lightweight Water-Resistant Packable Hooded Puffer Jacket
- This jacket is a classic, and it will last you for years.
- Water-resistant, lightweight, and packable for your suitcase
- Versatile for its slimming contour: can be dressed up with a cute scarf, or down for a more sporty look
- Comes in 14 colors!
See the latest prices for this lightweight winter jacket
Warm winter blanket scarf
Okay, people, I’m seeing this look all over Pinterest, and I love how versatile this scarf is!
- This blanket scarf can be worn as a scarf, shawl, or poncho
- 30 different designs
- Soft, warm, and cozy
Check out prices for this beautiful blanket scarf
Travel Anti-theft purse
If you’ll be traveling in the big cities, especially Barcelona or Madrid, get an anti-theft travel purse! I own this one, and I use it every day. I’ve been using it for about 2 years EVERY DAY.
- Lockable zippers of the main compartment and front pocket. TRUST ME – it will give you peace of mind!
- Cut-proof straps and body material to prevent slash-and-run theft
- Enough pockets to keep you organized, not too many to get you confused
Spring
The weather in March, April, May, and June
The spring season is from March 22 to June 20. In spring, the weather warms up, but the temperatures are more erratic and less predictable. Sunshine hours extend a little longer, and sunny days are here. You can expect showers in April or May all around. The Spanish have a saying, “Hasta el cuarenta de mayo, no te quites el sayo.” In other words, don’t take off your coat until you’re absolutely sure that it won’t rain. Spanish people dress for the seasonal mood and NOT the weather.
Atlantic / Northern Spain: It’s likely that it will rain here, especially in Galicia. The weather averages around the low 50s (F), (around 11-12ºC) then it gets warmer in June until the low 70s (around 22ºC). Remember, it’s colder in the north, and cold and wet in the Northwest!
Continental / Central Spain: You’ll have a wider range of temperatures from beginning to end of spring. Expect to about the 40s (F) (6ºC) in late March, then warming up to 80s (F) (28ºC) in May and June. Madrid, especially, is warmer than Barcelona because it’s inland. April and May get some rainfall, but nothing torrential. Expect nights to be cooler though. June starts to warm up. In Ávila, the average low in June is 51ºF / 11ºC and a high of 75ºF / 24ºC.
Mediterranean / Southern Spain / Catalonia: The southern region of Andalusia is the warmest of all Spain. In March, it’s about mid-40s (F) (7ºC) then climbs to about the 60s (F) (17ºC) in April and about mid-70s (24ºC) in June! Barcelona is similar, but expect more humidity. It does cool down in the evenings in both regions. In Barcelona, I wear a heavy sweater during the day (although many are still wearing their puffy parkas!). At night, wearing a jacket or coat will keep you warm.
What to wear in Spain in Spring
How to dress in Spain in the spring? People are still wearing dark colors in March – although the brighter colors creep in their spring wardrobes by April. If you’re out all day until evening, bring another layer in your purse or backpack. Tourists stick out if they’re wearing strappy dresses with sandals in April. I see it ALL the time. Save your head-to-toe summer ensemble for summer. Locals usually don’t show a lot of flesh even if it’s sunny outside. Chances are – that sunshine lasts for random spurts throughout the day – so locals lean towards dressing warmly.
Women
- Long-sleeved tops, mostly for March, April, and May
- Short-sleeved tops, for April, May, and June
- Tank tops, at the end of May and June
- Pants or jeans. I don’t wear jeans in the summer in Barcelona. They’re too thick for me, and I feel sticky!
- Shorts in May or June. Women wear all lengths. But be aware of dress codes when visiting churches or other religious sites.
- If you wear skirts, pair them with leggings underneath. I will not forget the times I started living in Barcelona wearing my knee-length dresses in March, only to “feel naked” after a few hours of walking around the city. The breeze!
- A cardigan or hoodie on when you hit the shade. Dress in layers! You may be able to wear only two layers comfortably without feeling cold. Think: onion! Peel off the layers as you sit in the Plaza Mayor of your visiting town.
- Comfy flats or short boots, or sneakers. You may be able to wear sandals starting in late May, but make sure they’re stylish and classy. Rubber flip-flops in April or May look weird unless you’re near the beach.
- Scarves, scarves, scarves are the key to protecting you from the breeze and accessorizing your outfit. Go for a lighter material like cotton, jersey, or linen.
Men
Long-sleeved shirts, sweaters, cardigans, and hoodies are all a go! Men wear scarves mostly if it’s necessary i.e. it’s cold!, so you’ll see fewer male scarf-wearers in the spring. It’s more acceptable for men to wear more fitted tops and bottoms, and not so baggy like American men wear their clothes. You can also start wearing shorts in May (if it’s warm) or June.
Also, guys, do you want to tote around your wallet and keys more comfortably? Here, you can wear a man purse. (“It’s a satchel!” – Seinfeld) No one will bat an eye.
Guys, check out this leather crossbody satchel! It’s still masculine and would fit everything you need to travel.
Check prices for this manly man satchel
Spring Packing List Suggestions
An easy-to-take-off cardigan sweater
- Fitted and tapered at the waist for a feminine shape
- Great for layering or wearing alone
- Comes in over a dozen colors!
See the latest prices for this spring cardigan
A versatile dress with pockets
A dress that looks good on any shape (check out the girl’s video in the description!)
- Soft, flowy, and stretchy so you can move around easily
- Pockets! Pockets are power. Slip in spare change when you’re in a rush
- Can be worn alone or with leggings. You can dress it up or down!
Check out prices for this dress
Infinity scarf with a SECRET pocket
- It has a hidden zipper pocket! Perfect for hiding your money from pickpockets
- Great if you go out at night and don’t want to bring a purse
- Easy to carry with you in case you run into a cool breeze
Check out prices for this scarf
Summer
The weather in June, July, August, and September
The official summer season starts on June 21 and ends on September 23. June is warm but not OMG-take-me-to-the-beach-I’m-dying weather. July is full-force summer everywhere. The hottest month of the year is undeniably August. This is when most Spaniards take their vacations, and some take the whole month off! It’s warm weather everywhere!
Atlantic / Northern Spain: You can expect June to reach the high 70s (F) (26ºC) and August to be around high 80s (32ºC). Again, it’s the coolest part of Spain, so it won’t get to be unbearably hot.
Continental / Central Spain: Madrid is very hot and dry in the summer. It starts in the low 80s (F) (28ºC) to a high of 90s (F) (35ºC) in July and August. It doesn’t cool down too much at night!
Mediterranean / Southern Spain / Andalusia: It’s very hot in the south. (In 2004, I could literally CUT the heat with a knife.) Remember that Seville, Granada, and Córdoba are in the south, but inland, which makes the heat is semi-arid. The temperature starts in the 80s (F) (30ºC) in late June, and in August reaches 90s (F) (34ºC) or more! Locals stay indoors like vampires and close their shades until 5pm during siesta time, then they’re back outside again having their beers.
Mediterranean / Barcelona / Costa Brava: I’m separating this out because the summer heat in Barcelona is different from the South. Barcelona is less hot than the south but more humid. It reaches the high 80s (F) (32ºC), but it feels like MORE because of the humidity. At least in Barcelona, you have the beach nearby, where you can cool down!
What to wear in Spain in summer
By the end of June, sleeveless shirts, shorts, and sandals are typical clothing in Spain. Leather sandals are usually the preference vs. beachy flip-flops. For local Spain summer fashion, many people have espadrilles or menorquinas, which are traditional in many parts of Spain. Pick some up as a souvenir while you’re here!
Let’s talk flip-flops real quick. They’re more acceptable at the beach. They don’t look so bad on a bunch of young people in a crowd (like below). No one will stare at you, but the rubber beach-type sandal looks too casual in a bar. If you must wear a flip-flop thong sandal, why not opt for something dressier?
In early to mid-June, be sure to bring a light cardigan or scarf as it cools down a little – you’ll still need that extra layer.
Women
Locals are pretty conservative when showing flesh. You’ll see more tight, skin-revealing outfits like mini cotton dresses and workout-style bras on the 16-25 age group. What not to wear in Spain? Avoid wearing your swimsuits in public unless you’re at the beach, on the sand. Even then, many locals cover up when they’re inside a beach shop.
- Short-sleeved tops. For traveling, stick to non-sticky synthetics as they can be dressed up or down. My favorite blouse is a 100% polyester top that can pass for silk! They also don’t wrinkle as easily as cotton and keep you cool.
- Sleeveless tops
- Shorts. Wearing shorts in Spain is not a sin – it just has to be appropriate for the weather!
- Dresses or skirts
- Light pants or jeans. I don’t wear jeans in the summer because they’re too sticky paired with the Barcelona humidity!
- Light sweater (in Northern Spain). I don’t wear a sweater at all in Barcelona, even at night.
- Athletic shoes, flats, or sandals
- Swimsuit if you’re hitting the beach or pool
Men
Summertime is great for going casual. T-shirts, shorts, polo shirts are all acceptable. As I mentioned with the ladies, save your rubbery flip-flops for the beach. Guys, it’s also acceptable for men to wear pink. Men can wear short-sleeved tops, polo shirts, or t-shirts. I see a lot of men wearing tank tops too. They also wear long shorts and sneakers or leather sandals. Men don’t really wear baseball caps or visors unless they’re doing sports or are at the beach. This is how I can spot an American, honestly! Again, men’s clothing is more fitted in Spain.
Also, swimwear: local men don’t really wear those long surf shorts. They wear mid-thigh swim trunks. Speedos are not to be made fun of either here. Spanish men embrace their manhood!
Summer Packing List Suggestions
Cute shorts
- Customers have ordered multiple prints of these shorts
- Wide waist and pleats for a flattering fit
Check out the latest prices for these cute travel shorts!
Flowy, comfortable dress with pockets
- Pockets to quickly stash coins or cards
- Flowy and light, perfect for summer
Check out prices for this flowy dress!
Push-Up Bra Tummy-flattening Swimsuit
- 200+ 4.5 star reviews
- Customers love the way it hides their tummy
- Comes in different colors and patterns
Check out prices for this tummy-control swimsuit!
Travel Sandals
- 200+ very positive Amazon reviews
- Great for all-day because of the strong, sturdy sole
- Can look good for day or night
Fall / Autumn
The weather in September, October, November, December
September season is September 22 to December 22. It’s still pretty warm all the way to November (I’m finding this truer every year due to climate change.) Fall is a great time to visit Spain because summer crowds have died down but the weather is still warm for outdoor activities. Again, Northern Spain is the coldest, then central Spain, then Barcelona and along the coast. Southern Spain is the warmest.
Atlantic / Northern Spain: Hot beach weather dissipates much more quickly in the North. Average temperatures in San Sebastian go from the mid-60s (F) (18ºC) in September down to 50s (F) (12ºC) in December. Expect some wet days in the Northwest of Galicia!
Continental / Central Spain: In Madrid, it’s still quite hot, so no cooling down yet in September. But with each month, the temperature drops about 10 degrees. It’s about 80ºF/27ºC in September, the 70s (F) (24ºC) in October, 60s (F) (18ºC) in November, and 50s (F)(10ºC) in December.
Mediterranean / Southern Spain: Fall is definitely an extension of summer. People are still hitting the beach in September and some of October but not in droves. Seville is still very warm, but it’s cooler along coastal towns like Málaga or Huelva.
Mediterranean / Barcelona / Costa Brava: September cools down gradually as the whole month is pretty much beach weather. It’s still humid! You’ll probably have some good beach weather in October also, with temps ranging between 61ºF – 80ºF (16ºC – 27ºC). The lowest low in November is 52ºF (11ºC), and in December stays around the 40s (5-9ºC).
What to wear in Spain in Fall
September is still very much summer until the end, so you can still wear sleeveless tops and shorts. October is still warm, but you’ll want to cover up in the evenings. November is when true fall probably hits, so you’ll want to dig up your boots and scarves. As fall goes, use earth tones and dark colors again. Wear another layer – like a tank top or camisole underneath a long-sleeved top, or a long-sleeved top with a medium-weighted sweater. Always bring another layer at night!
Women
- Tank tops (September, maybe October)
- Shorts (September and October)
- Short-sleeved tops (September and October)
- Long-sleeved tops and blouses October, November, and December. It’s the season to go back to the dark colors
- Strappy dresses (September and October)
- Dresses or skirts. Be sure to pair them with leggings in November and December.
- A base layer (November and December)
- Light scarves
- Sweater, hoodie, or jacket as it temperatures drop in the evenings
- Sandals until mid-October, boots in October, November, and December
Men
As I mentioned, September and October are still pretty warm, so you can wear your shorts and short-sleeved shirts. A light jacket or medium-weight sweater or hoodie paired with jeans or slacks work well in November and December. Bring out your utilitarian scarves too!
Fall Packing List Suggestions
Versatile long-sleeved fall dress
- Soft and form-fitting
- Pockets again! And so easy to pack
- Comes in different colors
- Can be paired with boots or sandals
Check latest prices on this cute fall dress!
Patterned scarf
This reminds me of the Spanish scarves here – probably because this one’s designed in Spain!
- Perfect, lightweight scarf to style an outfit
- Made of 100% bamboo viscose so it doesn’t wrinkle easily
Check the latest prices for this stylish scarf
Cozy anorak
- Medium weight jacket, perfect for the shoulder seasons
- Great for urban wear or outdoor activities
More Spain fashion tips
What to wear when going out / partying at night. A general rule of thumb: If you’re hitting a dance club, you can wear your heels and mini-skirts. Guys, no t-shirts. For regular bars, shoot for dressy-casual.
What to wear in a church to Spain. It’s acceptable to wear “normal” shorts and a sleeveless top to a church in Spain. I haven’t been to ALL the churches in Spain, but I also have never been encouraged to cover up when entering. If you show up in a super-tight crop top, I don’t know what will happen, but I don’t suggest it.
Storing your wallet and other goods. In large cities, especially Madrid and Barcelona, be wary of pickpockets. I highly suggest you wear a cross-body purse. Get an anti-theft purse! I have two, and I use mine every day, not just for traveling. Basically, you can “lock” your zipper so pickpockets can’t easily get into your bag. It will give you extra peace of mind! Check out my buyer’s guide on the best anti-theft purses on Amazon. Also, read my post on how to not get robbed in Barcelona for more tips!
Blend in with the locals. You can tell if someone is a tourist based on their skin tone, hair, what they’re doing while out, or their attitude. On top of that, your attire can make a difference. In general, the more athletic look that you have, the more likely you’ll probably look like a tourist. It can go the other way too. I saw a woman was wearing “military chic” (fashionable double-breasted military jacket with dressy heels) around the Sagrada Familia the other day. Obviously, she stood out. Go for middle-of-the-road to not stand out.
If you’re coming for a formal event like a wedding, dress SHARP like the Spanish. Have you ever seen guests at a Spanish wedding? OMG, the guests are sooo beautiful to look at. The general rule is to wear a short dress for a day wedding, a long dress for an evening wedding.
Electronics in Spain. This can be confusing, especially for Americans. Here, the current is 220-240 volts and the adapter is a rounded two-prong outlet. Most North American appliances are 110 volts and will need an electricity converter. Check out this adapter which works within 150 countries, and it has 2 USB ports also. It works with phones, iPads, and tablets, etc.
Read my post on how to prepare for a trip to Spain!
Clothing stores in Spain
If you want to know what clothing shops they have for local taste, the mega conglomerates are Zara and H&M, where you’ll find international fast fashion. Other fashion brands in Spain are (both international and Spanish) are Massimo Dutti, Bershka, Desigual, Intropia, Stradivarius, Adolfo Dominguez, Pull & Bear, and Mango. Read more on my post of Spanish clothing brands.
Mainstream fashion icons from Spain
So, if you want to know who’s who in mainstream fashion, Princess Letizia Ortiz is the most heavily mentioned “fashion icon”. Granted, you’ll never see her in jeans, instead mostly dresses and skirts. You can also spy on Penelope Cruz (of course), Paula Echevarria, Cristina Pedroche, Sara Carbonero, Adriana Ugarte, Blanca Suarez, Inma Cuesta, or Amaia Salamanca, for starters. For men, I can only think of Cristiano Ronaldo lol! Only he’s Portuguese and lives in Spain. Who would you suggest for guys?
There you have it! Hope this gives you a firm grasp of what to wear in Spain! Read this if you want to know what not to wear in Spain. Hit me up with questions! Or tell me I’m sooo wrong! Hasta luego!
After this pandemic, I will sure travel in Spain. Thanks for all these tips – I’m gonna save this. 🙂
Thank you very much for the information provided! Would you know some websites where we may get those hats and fascinators for weddings? They are absolutely gorgeous! It is so hard to get them here in the US and there seems to be many more with awesome variety in Spain. Thank you.
Hi Nathalie! In the US? I wouldn’t even know where to start 🙁 Check out the El Corte Ingles website to see if they deliver to the US! The hats are called “pamelas” and the fascinators are called “tocados”, if that helps.
April is our vacation in Spain ,Barcelona. 70 years of age.Your tips are great.Thankyou,Mayilyn
Wow , cool, Marilyn!! Good luck on your trip and feel free to contact me if you have any questions.
Justine, thank you for sharing your what and what not to wear in Spain. I hate looking like a tourist while traveling in the U.S and abroad. I will be traveling with my niece in mid-May, celebrating her college graduation. Our itinerary is a loop of Madrid, San Sebastián, Valencia, Granada, back to Madrid. Do you have any fashion advice for a 55 y/o woman? I’m a classic, understated but comfortable kinda of gal. I am excited to experience the culture of evenings filled with tapas, drinks and dinner.
Thank you!
Stacey
Hey Stacey! If you’re a classic, understated but comfortable kinda of gal, then go with that. May will be warm, so you can probably bring a light jacket or sweater for the evenings. Not sure how San Sebastian is during that time, but I imagine the rest of the cities will be much warmer. So…stick to classics to not stand out like cotton blouses, jeans, sweaters. Spanish people don’t really wear shorts unless it’s summertime (after June 21) or if it’s REALLY hot. But every year, it’s seems then get more casual each time. Did that answer your question? Let me know!
FOR THOSE NOT HAPPY WITH HEAVY SUN ON FACE, CAN MEN WEAR STRAW FEDORAS OR PANAMA HATS WHILE SITE SEEING?
I will be going to Granada, Cadiz, Seville, Cordoba and ending in Madrid 10/18 – 11/3. I feel like that lands me right in the middle between cooler and warmer clothes. You say in October you can still wear shorts, short sleeve tops and strappy dresses but then you say mid-October you start wearing boots. I’ll be packing carry-on only, and of course I’ll check the weather before I leave, but I won’t have room for chunky boots. I have leather sandals I was hoping to bring, white tennis shoes for walking and then some sling back close-toed flats or full flats. Will that suffice? We went to Italy a couple years back with the same dates and the predicted weather changed after we to there and we were stuck with fall clothes in the 80’s and it was quite uncomfortable so trying to avoid that this time. I was thinking if I did wear a short sleeve dress during the day (or evening) I could just wear a denim jacket over it. Do people wear jean jackets in Spain? Also, I really need a hat to protect my skin/scalp. What size straw? hat would be appropriate? I always hear not to wear BB caps in Europe. At least in France, Italy etc.. Thanks